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		<title>Comment on &#8220;White Owl Jaguar&#8221;: A Tikal Royal Ancestor by Luca Bellani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luca Bellani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 17:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Dr. Stuart
muchisimas gracias por su trabajo increible.
Sus articulos motivan a miles de estudiantes en todo el mundo.
Yo soy italiano y simplemente un guia de turistas pero sus articulos me ayudan mucho en mi trabajo.
Gracias

ps: Simonetta eres italiana y estudias en el centro de estudios mayas de la UNAM?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Dr. Stuart<br />
muchisimas gracias por su trabajo increible.<br />
Sus articulos motivan a miles de estudiantes en todo el mundo.<br />
Yo soy italiano y simplemente un guia de turistas pero sus articulos me ayudan mucho en mi trabajo.<br />
Gracias</p>
<p>ps: Simonetta eres italiana y estudias en el centro de estudios mayas de la UNAM?</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Casa Herrera: UT-Austin&#8217;s New Research Center in Antigua, Guatemala by Larry Lo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Lo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know why but the picture of Casa Herrera reminds me of apartment complexes in Teotihuacan. Maybe it&#039;s just the color scheme.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know why but the picture of Casa Herrera reminds me of apartment complexes in Teotihuacan. Maybe it&#8217;s just the color scheme.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Orienting Bonampak by Bill Ringle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Ringle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 23:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess the problem then, supposing one was at an intervisible place on this ridge, would be to determine if one was positioned on a direct line between sites, or was at the apex of a triangle. How&#039;s this for a seat-of-the-pants solution? take a long straight tube, such a bamboo pole. Look through it telescope like at Yaxchilan. Keeping it fixed except for a vertical up-down rotation, go to the other end and see where you are looking. When you are looking at both sites from either end of the tube, you would be along a direct line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess the problem then, supposing one was at an intervisible place on this ridge, would be to determine if one was positioned on a direct line between sites, or was at the apex of a triangle. How&#8217;s this for a seat-of-the-pants solution? take a long straight tube, such a bamboo pole. Look through it telescope like at Yaxchilan. Keeping it fixed except for a vertical up-down rotation, go to the other end and see where you are looking. When you are looking at both sites from either end of the tube, you would be along a direct line.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Maya Multilinguals? by Robert Kiss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Kiss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 21:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Laz,

I agree with you. Ancient &amp; rare languages (and cultures) throughout the world must be taught by parents to their children. These root languages contain knowledge &amp; culture barely found in modern languages. My family are Hungarian (Magyar) which is considered one of the root languages along with Basque. As can be found in Mayan, the agglutinative Magyar language also contains thoughts, feelings, and ancient concepts. Not only is it similar to Sumerian but I have even read that there are connections to the South American languages (river &amp; place names). Ancient culture is disappearing fast as children learn modern/western ways so time to save whats left of the living past is unfortunately limited. I hope linguists compare the ancient languages around the world to find their common root/s.

1830
SIR JOHN BOWRING, English traveler and writer, visited Hungary and published an anthology in English of the work of Hungarian writers and poets.  „The Hungarian language goes far back. It developed in a very peculiar manner and its structure reaches back to times when most of the now spoken European languages did not even exist. It is a language which developed steadily and firmly in itself, and in which there are logic and mathematics with the adaptability and malleability of strength and chords. The Englishman should be proud that his language indicates an epic of human history. One can show forth its origin; and all layers can be distinguished in it, which gathered together during contacts with different nations. Whereas the Hungarian language is like a rubble-stone, consisting of only one piece, on which the storms of time left not a scratch. It&#039;s not a calendar that adjusts to the changes of the ages. It needs no one, it doesn&#039;t borrow, does no huckstering, and doesn&#039;t give or take from anyone. This language is the oldest and most glorious monument of national sovereignty and mental independence. What scholars cannot solve, they ignore. In philology it&#039;s the same way as in archeology. The floors of the old Egyptian temples, which were made out of only one rock, can&#039;t be explained. No one knows where they came from, or from which mountain the wondrous mass was taken. How they were transported and lifted to the top of the temples. The genuineness of the Hungarian language is a phenomenon much more wondrous than this.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Laz,</p>
<p>I agree with you. Ancient &amp; rare languages (and cultures) throughout the world must be taught by parents to their children. These root languages contain knowledge &amp; culture barely found in modern languages. My family are Hungarian (Magyar) which is considered one of the root languages along with Basque. As can be found in Mayan, the agglutinative Magyar language also contains thoughts, feelings, and ancient concepts. Not only is it similar to Sumerian but I have even read that there are connections to the South American languages (river &amp; place names). Ancient culture is disappearing fast as children learn modern/western ways so time to save whats left of the living past is unfortunately limited. I hope linguists compare the ancient languages around the world to find their common root/s.</p>
<p>1830<br />
SIR JOHN BOWRING, English traveler and writer, visited Hungary and published an anthology in English of the work of Hungarian writers and poets.  „The Hungarian language goes far back. It developed in a very peculiar manner and its structure reaches back to times when most of the now spoken European languages did not even exist. It is a language which developed steadily and firmly in itself, and in which there are logic and mathematics with the adaptability and malleability of strength and chords. The Englishman should be proud that his language indicates an epic of human history. One can show forth its origin; and all layers can be distinguished in it, which gathered together during contacts with different nations. Whereas the Hungarian language is like a rubble-stone, consisting of only one piece, on which the storms of time left not a scratch. It&#8217;s not a calendar that adjusts to the changes of the ages. It needs no one, it doesn&#8217;t borrow, does no huckstering, and doesn&#8217;t give or take from anyone. This language is the oldest and most glorious monument of national sovereignty and mental independence. What scholars cannot solve, they ignore. In philology it&#8217;s the same way as in archeology. The floors of the old Egyptian temples, which were made out of only one rock, can&#8217;t be explained. No one knows where they came from, or from which mountain the wondrous mass was taken. How they were transported and lifted to the top of the temples. The genuineness of the Hungarian language is a phenomenon much more wondrous than this.”</p>
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		<title>Comment on Orienting Bonampak by David Stuart</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 15:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, the large ridge between Bonampak and Yaxchilan is very visible from both sites.  It dominates the entire eastern horizon of Bonampak, in fact.  Tracing a direct line from the top of that ridge to each place would have presented no challenges whatsoever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the large ridge between Bonampak and Yaxchilan is very visible from both sites.  It dominates the entire eastern horizon of Bonampak, in fact.  Tracing a direct line from the top of that ridge to each place would have presented no challenges whatsoever.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Preclassic &#8220;Whiplash&#8221; by Betty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Betty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 21:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Estimado doctor Stuart, es para mi un honor y orgullo poder escribirle este correo, se lo escribo en español porque sé que usted habla muy bien mi idioma. Yo soy una estudiante del último año de Arqueología en la Universidad de San Carlos de Guatemala. El motivo de la presente es contarle que yo lo conozco a usted porque me ha tocado hacer investigaciones sobre epigrafía, lo he visto en la &quot;U&quot; y una  vez estube tentada a pedirle  un autografo. Eso es todo. Mi nombre es Carmen Elizabeth Castañeda Vásquez y tengo 62 años de edad (ya estoy viejita). También conozco al Doctor Saturno y por cierto que lo confundí con usted. Ha sido un placer poder escribir este correo. Gracias y Adios.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Estimado doctor Stuart, es para mi un honor y orgullo poder escribirle este correo, se lo escribo en español porque sé que usted habla muy bien mi idioma. Yo soy una estudiante del último año de Arqueología en la Universidad de San Carlos de Guatemala. El motivo de la presente es contarle que yo lo conozco a usted porque me ha tocado hacer investigaciones sobre epigrafía, lo he visto en la &#8220;U&#8221; y una  vez estube tentada a pedirle  un autografo. Eso es todo. Mi nombre es Carmen Elizabeth Castañeda Vásquez y tengo 62 años de edad (ya estoy viejita). También conozco al Doctor Saturno y por cierto que lo confundí con usted. Ha sido un placer poder escribir este correo. Gracias y Adios.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Orienting Bonampak by Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 04:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don&#039;t need a map if there is some point between the two sites from which you can see both; it was entirely possible for the builders of Bonampak to orient their city towards Yaxchilan from some high vantage point on the ridge between the two cities.  I think it&#039;s clear how that can be done from Figure 2.  If I was a Maya architect, I would build a huge fire on the vantage point, so the workers back at the site know exactly how to start the construction.

When I visited Calakmul, it was a very clear day, and I *think* I was able to see El Mirador through binoculars from the top of Structure 1.  But of course I have no way to be sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t need a map if there is some point between the two sites from which you can see both; it was entirely possible for the builders of Bonampak to orient their city towards Yaxchilan from some high vantage point on the ridge between the two cities.  I think it&#8217;s clear how that can be done from Figure 2.  If I was a Maya architect, I would build a huge fire on the vantage point, so the workers back at the site know exactly how to start the construction.</p>
<p>When I visited Calakmul, it was a very clear day, and I *think* I was able to see El Mirador through binoculars from the top of Structure 1.  But of course I have no way to be sure.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Orienting Bonampak by Aligning buildings over great distances &#171; Archaeological Haecceities</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aligning buildings over great distances &#171; Archaeological Haecceities</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 03:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] buildings over great&#160;distances    David Stuart at Maya Decipherment argues that the design of the small site of Bonampak may have been directed towards the larger site [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] buildings over great&nbsp;distances    David Stuart at Maya Decipherment argues that the design of the small site of Bonampak may have been directed towards the larger site [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Orienting Bonampak by Johan Normark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johan Normark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 06:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Constructing linear alignments over great distances is not impossible even if the area in between the connected locations is forested or the locations are not visible from the ground level. If major structures at El Mirador and Calakmul are aligned with each others they must have been so from the ground level (as no adjustment in alignment in constructions higher up on the pyramids are known to me). 

I doubt that the usual &quot;shouting&quot; method often used by workers when they locate their fellow workers some distance away and start cutting the forest from two directions is relevant across greater distances.

However, something visible from ground level that reaches great heights and is visible from great distances is smoke. The constructors at Bonampak may have used fire and smoke at Yaxchilan and on the hills to get a basic orientation. The same goes for Calakmul and El Mirador. Another example are causeways that connect preexisting sites. The Coba-Yaxuna causeway aligns with several locations along its 100 kms long trajectory. Straight brechas may have preexisted the causeway but to align even the original brechas with preexisting sites one would need something possible to see from greater distances (and in the northern Yucatan the topography is far flatter than at Calakmul and for sure at Bonampak).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Constructing linear alignments over great distances is not impossible even if the area in between the connected locations is forested or the locations are not visible from the ground level. If major structures at El Mirador and Calakmul are aligned with each others they must have been so from the ground level (as no adjustment in alignment in constructions higher up on the pyramids are known to me). </p>
<p>I doubt that the usual &#8220;shouting&#8221; method often used by workers when they locate their fellow workers some distance away and start cutting the forest from two directions is relevant across greater distances.</p>
<p>However, something visible from ground level that reaches great heights and is visible from great distances is smoke. The constructors at Bonampak may have used fire and smoke at Yaxchilan and on the hills to get a basic orientation. The same goes for Calakmul and El Mirador. Another example are causeways that connect preexisting sites. The Coba-Yaxuna causeway aligns with several locations along its 100 kms long trajectory. Straight brechas may have preexisted the causeway but to align even the original brechas with preexisting sites one would need something possible to see from greater distances (and in the northern Yucatan the topography is far flatter than at Calakmul and for sure at Bonampak).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Orienting Bonampak by Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 13:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The forest is overgrown at these sites, but I had the impression they were not visible even if the forest was cleared.  You’re proposing I believe that the Maya were able to plan sites using a map (in the western sense).  They were able to measure great distances and make calculations base on this.  The large preclassic projects at Edzna and El Mirador suggest this is possible, these canals and causeways were constructed in straight lines directly to otherwise invisible places.
Structure 1 at Calakmul seems to be unrelated to other structures or natural features at the site, but is oriented towards El Mirador.  This structure and El Mirador are of course Late Preclassic, and Calakmul is more or less connected to El Mirador via causeways.   Its hard to see this as a coincidence, but I have reservations that structure 1 was intentionally built to face El Mirador.  I am told El Mirador is visible from Calakmul.  Having visited both sites I have doubts, and if this is true, only the very tops of the summit temples would be visible, so the construction of these massive temples would have to have been done wholly based on theory too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The forest is overgrown at these sites, but I had the impression they were not visible even if the forest was cleared.  You’re proposing I believe that the Maya were able to plan sites using a map (in the western sense).  They were able to measure great distances and make calculations base on this.  The large preclassic projects at Edzna and El Mirador suggest this is possible, these canals and causeways were constructed in straight lines directly to otherwise invisible places.<br />
Structure 1 at Calakmul seems to be unrelated to other structures or natural features at the site, but is oriented towards El Mirador.  This structure and El Mirador are of course Late Preclassic, and Calakmul is more or less connected to El Mirador via causeways.   Its hard to see this as a coincidence, but I have reservations that structure 1 was intentionally built to face El Mirador.  I am told El Mirador is visible from Calakmul.  Having visited both sites I have doubts, and if this is true, only the very tops of the summit temples would be visible, so the construction of these massive temples would have to have been done wholly based on theory too.</p>
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